Sunday, September 26, 2010

Blog 4:The Allegory of the Cave

Summary:
In a story, The Republic, written by Plato, Socrates is having a conversation with one of his followers. He is talking or more likely, asking questions about how the prisoners would not be able to recognize people or objects that are passing through.
As the prisoners were chained, underground, with their backs to the raised way, where people pass through everyday, they were not allowed to turn their heads towards the passing figures, to see the world, the sun again. They could only hear sound and see the shadows as the fire threw them on the wall facing the prisoners. They could not move their heads, which left only moving objects on the wall and echo of the foot steps that were behind them. They would fancy for freedom, and the sight of sunlight.
The conversation goes on and Socrates tells Glaucon, the follower, what would happen if, for example, one of the prisoners would be let outside. The prisoner would suffer pain in the eyes, he would have to adjust to the surroundings and the light, because he was chained to the darkness in the cave, for so long. The prisoner would contemplate on what are the objects before him. When he will finally get his vision accustomed, he will cherish the freedom and find himself in the right place.Plato's thinks that people in the society sometimes live like they were in the cave for many months and when they come out, they feel blinded by the light. As soon as their vision gets accustomed, they never want to go back to that darkness. The choice to live in the light, truth, is wanted more than living in the darkness, lie.
What the editor says in his note, in the beginning of the story is "It is true that many people around you may think you are weird or even a danger to the society, but you do not care. Once you have tasted the truth, you will not want to go back to being ignorant!".


My Place in the Cave:
If I would be in the Socrates' Cave story, I would be still in the cave, chained to the wall. I am blind, and I don't mean that I'm blind because I wear glasses or contact lenses, I'm blind because I can't tell the true colors of a person. Its like those prisoners, they saw shadows and heard echos of foot steps, I see people who are hiding something from me and lies that are pouring from their mouths, or they are simply protecting me from the truth. Sometimes it all turns into blur.
I guess, me, still chained, is because I'm a naive person. I trust people too fast and too easy. I believe in them and then, its either they will do something against my will, or a thing that will hurt my heart. I can not ever know if my dad is lying to me, he is really great at telling the stories but he does not have the backup for them, always blaming someone else for it and claiming that the evidence got lost so he can't prove it, so I can only trust him, and there, I get burned later on.
This story doesn't end with a prisoner coming out from the Cave and seeing the light and stop being ignorant. Lately I've been wanting the truth from him and some kind of support for his theories about people, and the tales he is telling me. So far he doesn't want to talk to me that much, because he lost a believer, the naive one is still naive, but maybe a little less than before she learned the true colors of her own father.

8 comments:

  1. Hello Karolina, my name is Jeffrey and I'm a student in ENG 103. Our professor is having us review your summary of "Allegory of the Cave".

    1. Is the main idea (thesis) of the passage clearly and correctly stated? YES

    2. Are the important supporting ideas stated correctly and fully? YES

    3. Are all (or nearly all) unimportant ideas excluded? YES

    4. Is the summary in the writer’s own words? YES

    5. Is the summary written with few grammar/spelling/style errors? YES

    6. Does the summary retain the sense and organization of the original passage? YES

    7. Is personal opinion included in the summary? NO

    In my opinion the summary was well done, you pretty much covered all the main points of the story. You did leave out a lot of things that didn’t pertain to the main objective of the story. There shouldn’t be quotation marks in summaries because everything should be in your own words but I see this was something extra from the editor and not directly from the Plato story. You kept me on track with your wording and spelling which is always a good thing, because a lot of reader's like me can get lost easily. It was also a good thing that you didn’t bounce from one point to the other, you kept everything in the same order of sequence that Plato did. I was almost thrown off by your personal opinion post also, but I see that was a separate assignment.

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  2. Hello Karolina, my name is Jeffrey and I'm a student in ENG 103. Our professor is having us review your summary of "Allegory of the Cave".

    1. Is the main idea (thesis) of the passage clearly and correctly stated? YES

    2. Are the important supporting ideas stated correctly and fully? YES

    3. Are all (or nearly all) unimportant ideas excluded? YES

    4. Is the summary in the writer’s own words? YES

    5. Is the summary written with few grammar/spelling/style errors? YES

    6. Does the summary retain the sense and organization of the original passage? YES

    7. Is personal opinion included in the summary? NO

    In my opinion the summary was well done, you pretty much covered all the main points of the story. You did leave out a lot of things that didn’t pertain to the main objective of the story. There shouldn’t be quotation marks in summaries because everything should be in your own words but I see this was something extra from the editor and not directly from the Plato story. You kept me on track with your wording and spelling which is always a good thing, because a lot of reader's like me can get lost easily. It was also a good thing that you didn’t bounce from one point to the other, you kept everything in the same order of sequence that Plato did. I was almost thrown off by your personal opinion post also, but I see that was a separate assignment.

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  3. Hello Karolina, my name is Jeffrey and I'm a student in ENG 103. Our professor is having us review your summary of "Allegory of the Cave".

    1. Is the main idea (thesis) of the passage clearly and correctly stated? YES

    2. Are the important supporting ideas stated correctly and fully? YES

    3. Are all (or nearly all) unimportant ideas excluded? YES

    4. Is the summary in the writer’s own words? YES

    5. Is the summary written with few grammar/spelling/style errors? YES

    6. Does the summary retain the sense and organization of the original passage? YES

    7. Is personal opinion included in the summary? NO

    In my opinion the summary was well done, you pretty much covered all the main points of the story. You did leave out a lot of things that didn’t pertain to the main objective of the story. There shouldn’t be quotation marks in summaries because everything should be in your own words but I see this was something extra from the editor and not directly from the Plato story. You kept me on track with your wording and spelling which is always a good thing, because a lot of reader's like me can get lost easily. It was also a good thing that you didn’t bounce from one point to the other, you kept everything in the same order of sequence that Plato did. I was almost thrown off by your personal opinion post also, but I see that was a separate assignment.

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  4. Hello Karolina, my name is Jeffrey and I'm a student in ENG 103. Our professor is having us review your summary of "Allegory of the Cave".

    1. Is the main idea (thesis) of the passage clearly and correctly stated? YES

    2. Are the important supporting ideas stated correctly and fully? YES

    3. Are all (or nearly all) unimportant ideas excluded? YES

    4. Is the summary in the writer’s own words? YES

    5. Is the summary written with few grammar/spelling/style errors? YES

    6. Does the summary retain the sense and organization of the original passage? YES

    7. Is personal opinion included in the summary? NO

    In my opinion the summary was well done, you pretty much covered all the main points of the story. You did leave out a lot of things that didn’t pertain to the main objective of the story. There shouldn’t be quotation marks in summaries because everything should be in your own words but I see this was something extra from the editor and not directly from the Plato story. You kept me on track with your wording and spelling which is always a good thing, because a lot of reader's like me can get lost easily. It was also a good thing that you didn’t bounce from one point to the other, you kept everything in the same order of sequence that Plato did. I was almost thrown off by your personal opinion post also, but I see that was a separate assignment.

    ReplyDelete
  5. Hello Karolina, my name is Jeffrey and I'm a student in ENG 103. Our professor is having us review your summary of "Allegory of the Cave".

    1. Is the main idea (thesis) of the passage clearly and correctly stated? YES

    2. Are the important supporting ideas stated correctly and fully? YES

    3. Are all (or nearly all) unimportant ideas excluded? YES

    4. Is the summary in the writer’s own words? YES

    5. Is the summary written with few grammar/spelling/style errors? YES

    6. Does the summary retain the sense and organization of the original passage? YES

    7. Is personal opinion included in the summary? NO

    In my opinion the summary was well done, you pretty much covered all the main points of the story. You did leave out a lot of things that didn’t pertain to the main objective of the story. There shouldn’t be quotation marks in summaries because everything should be in your own words but I see this was something extra from the editor and not directly from the Plato story. You kept me on track with your wording and spelling which is always a good thing, because a lot of reader's like me can get lost easily. It was also a good thing that you didn’t bounce from one point to the other, you kept everything in the same order of sequence that Plato did. I was almost thrown off by your personal opinion post also, but I see that was a separate assignment.

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  6. 1. Is the main idea (thesis) of the passage clearly and correctly stated? YES
    2. Are the important supporting ideas stated correctly and fully? YES
    3. Are all (or nearly all) unimportant ideas excluded? YES
    4. Is the summary in the writer’s own words? YES
    5. Is the summary written with few grammar/spelling/style errors? YES
    6. Does the summary retain the sense and organization of the original passage? YES
    7. Is personal opinion included in the summary? NO

    Good afternoon Karolina, my name is Jeffrey. I’m a student in ENG103 and our professor’s have my class reviewing your class’s summary of The Allegory of the Cave. I was given yours to comment on. I think you did a good job in delivering a good summary about the story. You made sure to include the important aspects of it. It’s very nice to see that you used you own words in recreating the story. Your sentences were a bit hard to follow at first but with a second read I totally understood your passage. Another good point of your summary was how you kept the order that the story was delivered in the same order, which I believe is crucial. As our professor taught us personal opinion is something that shouldn’t be included in summaries and you did a great job in not giving that to us.

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  7. Hi, this is Jeffrey De La Cruz

    my blog is http://karolciacandyland.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-place-in-cave.html#comments



    1. Is the main idea (thesis) of the passage clearly and correctly stated? YES
    2. Are the important supporting ideas stated correctly and fully? YES
    3. Are all (or nearly all) unimportant ideas excluded? YES
    4. Is the summary in the writer’s own words? YES
    5. Is the summary written with few grammar/spelling/style errors? YES
    6. Does the summary retain the sense and organization of the original passage? YES
    7. Is personal opinion included in the summary? NO

    Good afternoon Karolina, my name is Jeffrey. I’m a student in ENG103 and our professor’s have my class reviewing your class’s summary of The Allegory of the Cave. I was given yours to comment on. I think you did a good job in delivering a good summary about the story. You made sure to include the important aspects of it. It’s very nice to see that you used you own words in recreating the story. Your sentences were a bit hard to follow at first but with a second read I totally understood your passage. Another good point of your summary was how you kept the order that the story was delivered in the same order, which I believe is crucial. As our professor taught us personal opinion is something that shouldn’t be included in summaries and you did a great job in not giving that to us.

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  8. I am curious about your impression about your dad as "keeping you in the cave." Specifics would help, but since this is a public blog, giving away personal specifics is absolutely up to you.

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